Matt Starr and Jemima Kirke on Horny Poetry and Hugh Grant’s Tiny Nipples

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Matt Starr and Jemima Kirke on Horny Poetry and Hugh Grant’s Tiny Nipples
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To mark the launch of 'MOUTHFUL', Matt Starr sat down with Jemima Kirke to talk rom-coms, sexuality and Hugh Grant's nipples.

Starr, whose poems radiate with a competing sense of both perversion and innocence, earnestly exploring boyhood, body image, and the author’s youthful obsession with men. “I had such a hard time with male friendships growing up, which is why all my friends are girls and gays.”

STARR: I’ve felt so much shame for a multitude of reasons. Writing this is working through shame. I know there are gay undertones, but when you’re a kid, you don’t have all this baggage. STARR: My writing, but not my personal life, no. It’s funny because I think there’s a conflation; I’m the one writing it, and people hear me perform, and they’re like, “Oh, he’s a pervert.”KIRKE: By the way, I wrote here, “The earnestness of your desire.” That’s what makes it special.

KIRKE: “You don’t have to, I would just really like that.” Which poems did you take out and put back in? Were you unsure about any? STARR: Oh, I’ve felt it. It was horrible. I had such a hard time with male friendships growing up, which is why all my friends are girls and gays.STARR: Well, I was thinking a lot about my childhood crushes recently. I was obsessed aesthetically with Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Do you remember him?STARR: Yeah, and I think about that all the time. I’m so attracted to male bodies, but I don’t want to fuck them.

STARR: That’s so interesting. I don’t feel bad about anything in there. It’s all pleasure and observation.STARR: Because it’s so new . I feel like I’m 20 years late to everything. I started therapy late, started rom-coms late, discovered Drake late. I was always sensitive, but I never embraced it.STARR: There’s sweetness, though. I discovered rom-coms and Drake at the same time.STARR: Not scary. I was so insecure for so long. I’m so proud of my body now. I feel so good.

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