With both of their exhibitions examining the dark and personal, Bjarne Melgaard and Nicole Eisenman chat fisting, art scandals, and addiction.
. “Even the paintings that seem to be political allegories are actually personal allegories first.” It tracked, then, that when the artist, whose works are currently part of a survey spanning three decades of her career at the Museum of Contemporary Art in Chicago, got together with Norwegian shock-jocklast week, it wasn’t long before the pair were talking about ladyboys and crystal meth.
EISENMAN: That sounds like the best of both worlds to me. You could get clean and a date at the same time. EISENMAN: So you’re a fictive version of yourself? This mass character really parallels your life, but it’s not you?EISENMAN: I’m curious about that side, what goes on there? Is it sweet and domestic, are you guys making dinner every night and watching TV shows?
EISENMAN: Well, that’s one strike against your lesbianism. But it sounds like you read a lot of gay literature and gay theory. MELGAARD: When I lived in Brussels, I was heavily involved in the dark S&M scene. So I also have really big hands–MELGAARD: I’m everything. But fisting is the most boring sex ever. Not only does it take hours, but first it’s like one fist, right? And then it’s like, can you do two? Suddenly, four hours are gone and you just want to have a drink and a cigarette. Do you know what I mean?
communication with galleries, and I went from having no shows to now having shows in Seoul, Mexico, Berlin, New York, whatever. The show in New York right now is basically my first show sober. MELGAARD: It’s basically $15 million. It’s a long story, but I did a show where I sold for 12 million kroner in the most commercial, shitty gallery in Norway. I sold 130 sculptures in eight hours and made 12 million kroner. But the gallery had to pay production money,
MELGAARD: But I wanted to ask you a question, Nicole. Is your work a reflection of you? Is it personal?
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