The Labour peer says Reform UK 'are talking a good talk and Kemi [Badenoch] is not talking at all'.
Reform UK could replace the Conservatives as the second largest party at the next election, Baroness Harman has predicted. The Labour peer and former deputy leader said Nigel Farage's party 'seem to have an argument and they seem to know what it is'. Speaking to Beth Rigby on the Electoral Dysfunction podcast, Baroness Harman said that while she often believed that talk of party splits and decline were exaggerated, she did think this was the case with regards to Reform.
Lord Johnson said he believed the reports about a potential donation from Mr Musk to the Conservatives' rivals was 'frustrating because it takes a lot of oxygen and I'm very aware of the fact that people are talking about Reform today and they're not talking about Kemi Badenoch and the new Conservative agenda'. Ms Harman acknowledged that Reform also posed a threat to her party, but said Labour was aided by the fact it was now in government 'and we can do things'.
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