“[Nelson] was like, ‘Maybe we should get gay married in the music video and my wife could be the pastor.''
“Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly Fond Of Each Other” is not just a statement of indisputable fact — it’s also the title of queer country pioneer. The song was originally written by Ned Sublette in 1981 after he observed the prevalence of urban cowboys in the Manhattan gay bars he lived near.
It would have been Willy's version, around 2006. I remember being blown away that Willie Nelson had recorded a song like that. It became this instant cult classic. It wasn't played on the radio at all. It had a little bit of a life with thesoundtrack, but it's always just been one of my favorite Willie Nelson songs. Ned Sublette’s original version is amazing, but he wrote that in the ‘80s, so having Willy doing that was pretty amazing.
It was insane, especially making the music video. He's 91 and he doesn't do a ton of public stuff. Even when he tours, they keep a very closed bubble. I was telling myself, “I’ll believe it when I see it.” I didn't want to get my hopes up and then get disappointed if he understandably wouldn't be able to make the shoot or something. But he was there, and in the best of spirits. We had a great time. We filmed on Luck Ranch, which is their ranch in hill country in Texas.
Can we eventually expect it to just keep getting higher and higher until it's like only covering your forehead? I've always loved duets and features and collab projects. Willie asked me to do the cover of "Cowboys." That actually spurred the thought process. I was like,I put the feelers out there. I wanted it to be people that I knew personally and admired. I shot really high and some of them hit, which is pretty amazing.
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