We sit down with Prime Minister Keir Starmer to talk about his commitment of 2.5% of GDP on defence and tackling the crisis in UK prisons.
You’ve been talking about the 2.5 per cent of GDP you want spent on defence at some future point. There’s some puzzlement back home about how if you’re going to have a review, and then work out the date you’re going to hit it, and yet you’re going to have a spending review before that. So you’re going to decide the envelope, and yet somehow you’re going to stretch the envelope a bit later. It doesn’t quite tally.: The commitment to 2.5 per cent is absolute. And we will get to that 2.5 per cent.
: The Prison Governors’ Association has put out a statement saying they told you what it was like. You had loads of talks beforehand, you knew it was bad.: It is far worse, it’s far worse. It is shocking. Obviously, I know this field pretty well, but it is a basic function of government to make sure that we have the prison places we need for those people who are being sent to prison by our courts. For that to have broken down is a catastrophic failure of the last government.
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