One thing is clear: Everyone involved likes to TALK.
In the fall of 2020, the FBI announced it had made several arrests and foiled a chilling conspiracy to kidnap and possibly assassinate Michigan’s governor, Gretchen Whitmer. But as the prosecutors presented their case, details emerged of the role at least 12 FBI agents and informants played in the plot, raising crucial questions about how serious the threat actually had been.
What did you make of the way your reporting was received so differently by people on opposite ends of the politics?I mean, it’s funny that Tucker would call up Glenn Greenwald and have him on to talk about our reporting instead of us. He never called us up to talk about our reporting, which I thought was telling. I don’t know if it would’ve been interesting if we’d gone, but we didn’t get the call.
I think it’s possible to believe that the FBI was deeply involved and got out over its skis on this case without believing that there’s a deep-state conspiracy behind everything. And that’s where me and Tucker and people like that are a ways away. One thing that I wanted to get across in our reporting and in the podcast was that there are institutional reasons for why the FBI does things like this that are separate from conspiracy involving Hillary Clinton and George Soros.
: I guess I would say, too, in the defense of the FBI, you hear some of these people’s speech, and you wouldn’t want the FBI to listen to it and be like, “It’s cool. Don’t worry. Nothing to see here.” You can see why they were curious.But if you’re an incredibly psychologically weak person who’s flogged into deciding to act on it, it may not cross legal lines, but does it pass the smell test?: Here’s the thing—we will never know.
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