Swinton and Torres, who star opposite each other in Torres’s debut film, open up about terrible bosses, wonderful communities, and the deeply damaged psyches of New York City’s chief Karens.
Torres was able to draw on his own experience when crafting the film, likening the visa process to being trapped in a locked room. “I think that dealing with all bureaucracy is a little bit like that,” he says. “Talking to an insurance company or talking to an airline or banks, it all feels broken and that what you want is just out of reach.” Casting Swinton as his boss was also a deeply personal decision.
They've never been an employer, but I've been, let's say, at their mercy, consistently for a very long time. And I, funny enough, didn't really think about this person while we were shooting. And then last year, I was forced into a quite extended revisitation of this person. And during the course of the time we were together, I went, 'Oh, oh my Lord, you are Elizabeth.' Torres: There she is. Swinton: That's when I understood her.
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